You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

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On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's-eye

view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a

society and as individuals.

There are a number of important advances in evolutionary biology in the past few decades.

One of these being the resurgence of multi-level selection, or the fact that organisms and

humans evolve from selection pressure at multiple scales, not just the abilities, behaviors

of the individual organism or human.

Today, I am very pleased to have a conversation with a leading scholar in this field,

David Sloan Wilson. David is one of the foremost evolutionary thinkers and gifted communicator

about evolution to the general public.

David Sloan Wilson is a Sunni distinguished professor of biology and anthropology

emeritus at Binghamton University in New York. He's authored several books, including

Evolution for Everyone and Darwin's Cathedral. David and I share the

belief that when thinking about human behavior, it's critical to consider how evolution has shaped

the foundations of everything we do. How can this lens help us better plan and shape our behaviors for a materially smaller future?

And how might our improved knowledge of where we came from inform our behaviors and collective governance in the decades ahead?

Please welcome Professor David Sloan Wilson.

Music Please welcome Professor David Sloan Wilson. Hello, David.

Great to see you.

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