It's Thursday, May 21st, 2021 from Peach Fish Productions. It's the gist. I'm Mike Pesca.

Today is it not even mad day? You know when we originally conceived of the show's little left-right talk?

I've got two guys who are very much in the middle. maybe for different reasons, I think that Isaac,

Isaac Saul is temperamentally in the middle. And also he commits himself and his outlet

tangle to taking him both sides. And if you really do this and are really assiduous about it,

I find that you don't conclude,

you know, this one side has anything close to a lock on the truth.

This is the side that is never truthful.

Now, the side's an American debate.

I mean, there are really extremists out there and maybe they're never truthful. Now, besides an American debate, I mean, there are really extremists out there

and maybe they're never truthful, but there are, depending on how you define the sides,

there are enough examples of, let's say, you have a liberal orientation and maybe once you believe

that in Stephen Colbert's

aphorism that truth has a liberal bias. There are enough counter examples you just have to

throw that out as a heuristic. It doesn't fall 50-50. Let's say or let's acknowledge. I don't

know. Maybe your impressions may vary. But within debates, within the big debates, the general

what we call, and this isn't always the most useful way of thinking about it, leftward way

of thinking, is so often not the best way. And the rightward way of thinking so often has

genuine value in the interpretation of issues, at the very least as an exercise,

it's best to expose yourself to all the best arguments of whether it's left or right,

or nimbie or yimbi or interventionist and diplomat, whatever the orientations are.

There usually are good arguments, not just

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