Hello and welcome to another episode of The Fully Charged Podcast.

I think it's a really, I'm trying not to get too excited.

Look, you're a forgiven old man, I sometimes get a bit excited about batteries and I just

have to live with that and I'm not allowed to talk about it in my house, I'm allowed

to talk about it here in my little studio but if I mention, mention batteries in the kitchen

I get that look, you don't want that look but I think they are clearly a critically important

piece of the energy transition jigsaw and that is exactly what this podcast is all about.

Today I'm talking to a really amazing Norwegian man called Tom Jensen who has, is one of

the co-founders of a company and I'm going to try and do it in the slightly Norwegian May 3rd,

which is a Norwegian god of peace and prosperity, prosperity and that's what it's named after

and it is, we're talking about one of the gigafactories in Norway and now building gigafactories

in the United States to produce vast amounts of batteries, mainly for grid storage, for

storing wind and solar electricity when there's too much of it, which is often going to be

happening and then allowing us to use it when we do need it and it's just a fascinating

conversation and it's really worth listening to because of his explanations of what batteries

are, what they're made of, what we do with those materials, where those materials come

from, have we got enough materials to make the amount of batteries we need? We're talking

about multiple hundreds of terawatt hours, we're talking about petawatt hours of electricity

storage being developed in the next 10 years, really absolutely game changing, absolutely

undermining on an economic level, nothing to do with politics, nothing to do with tree hugging

or virtue signaling where it will undermine economically the dominance of fossil fuels,

it will not make sense to transport and burn fossil fuels once we can produce the energy

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