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Drilled

Norway Beyond Oil: Climate, Policy, Society

Drilled

Pushkin Industries

Earth Sciences, True Crime, Science

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

We look ahead to Norway's future, exploring how the country might begin to loosen oil's grip on its politics and identity. Hear how different voices envision aligning the country's actions with its values, its reputation, and the realities of climate change. 

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Communicating Climate Change

 

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Drilled. I'm Amy Westervelt.

0:09.6

Today we are bringing you the fourth and final episode of the mini-series, the Black

0:15.8

Thread, about Norway's complicated relationship with its identity as both a progressive leader and an oil state.

0:24.2

This mini-series comes to you from the host of the communicating climate change podcast, Dickon Bonnevik-Stone,

0:30.1

and was created in collaboration with Norwegian non-profit climate culture.

0:34.3

In today's episode, we look at Norway beyond oil. Because despite the limits that Norway's oil industry imposes on its citizens' ability to imagine a future without fossil fuels,

0:45.3

people all over the country are starting to speak up, take action, and begin the work to free themselves from the industry's influence.

0:53.3

We're excited to bring you this fourth

0:55.6

and final episode of The Black Thread. Enjoy. Welcome back to The Black Thread, a podcast

1:09.2

unraveling Norway's complex relationship with prosperity,

1:12.5

identity and responsibility in a warming world. I'm Dickon, a climate communications expert based in

1:18.9

Oslo, the Norwegian capital, tracing the black thread, oiled through Norway's society and culture.

1:25.9

Last time, we picked at the needlework, uncovering dropped stitches in the stories and rhetoric

1:31.2

of the Norwegian fossil fuel industry, and the logic championed by Norway's major political

1:35.8

parties to extend the country's oil age long into the future.

1:40.1

Reflecting back to the first episode of this series, and sociologists Carrie Norgaard's claim that,

1:45.5

when you study something that's a threat to society,

1:48.1

you start to see how things work,

1:50.0

I think it's fair to say that through this journey of discovery,

1:54.0

drilling into Norway's oil story,

1:56.1

we've begun to do exactly that.

1:58.8

But where do we go from here? In this closing episode of the Black Thread,

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