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šļø 14 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | The rising inequality and growing political instability that we see today are the direct result of decades of bad economic theory. |
| 0:10.9 | The last five decades of trickle-down economics haven't worked. |
| 0:14.7 | But what's the alternative? |
| 0:16.3 | Middle-out economics is the answer. |
| 0:18.6 | Because the middle class is the source of growth, not its consequence. |
| 0:23.1 | That's right. |
| 0:28.7 | This is pitchfork economics with Nick Hanauer, a podcast about how to build the economy from the middle out. |
| 0:36.9 | Welcome to the show. |
| 0:41.9 | Hey, pitchfork listeners, Goldie here. We've talked a lot on the pod about free trade and how |
| 0:48.5 | it's shaped the American economy, but what about our neighbors to the north? You know what |
| 0:53.9 | President Trump calls our 51st |
| 0:55.9 | state. In this episode, producer Freddie Das digs into the question with journalist Luke Savage, |
| 1:02.8 | who explains how NAFTA and its successors have locked Canada into a trade model that serves |
| 1:09.8 | corporations first and workers last. |
| 1:14.2 | Here's Freddie's conversation with Luke. |
| 1:21.4 | I'm Luke Savage. I'm a Toronto-based writer, columnist at Jacobin Magazine, and I blog on |
| 1:27.4 | Substack at Luke W. Savage. |
| 1:29.8 | Well, let's start with the big picture. What was the U.S.-Canada trade relationship like |
| 1:35.4 | before NAFTA, and how did it change afterward? So in Canada, there is a deep history of the |
| 1:42.3 | Canada-U.S. trade relationship really shaping the Canadian identity and being a |
| 1:47.7 | significant issue, very controversial issue in Canadian politics going right back to the 19th century. |
| 1:54.5 | So when Canada is created in 1867, Johnny McDonald, who's the country's first prime minister, he was very determined to |
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