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Worldly

North Korea blows up the peace process — literally

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Zack and Alex cope with Jenn’s absence by talking about one of their favorite topics: North Korea. In recent weeks, North Korea ramped up military tensions with South Korea and literally blew up the latter’s de facto embassy in the country. It seems that the US-led negotiating process with North Korea, ongoing since 2018, has conclusively failed. The team explains what happened, the deep strategic and political reasons behind the talks’ collapse, and then predict what might happen with North Korea if Biden wins the 2020 US election. References: The New York Times has a great write-up for North Korea’s hot and cold strategy. Zack wrote for Vox that the US should contain North Korea’s nuclear program, not seek to end it. Alex did an interview with Kim Jong Un biographer Anna Fifield about what makes him tick. If you want to learn more about North Korea, here are your main nine questions, answered. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom

0:04.9

influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white

0:09.6

women falsely accused people of color of crimes usually fixates on the

0:13.5

accuser the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the

0:17.2

innocent couple at the heart of this story. I just want the public to know

0:21.9

what she did was wrong.

0:24.0

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen,

0:26.4

available now wherever you get your podcasts. For those of you who remember the scary year 2017, it felt like the United States and North Korea

0:45.6

were on the brink of war constantly.

0:48.0

Well, we haven't quite gotten back to that point, but in the past few weeks there's been a dramatic uptick and a scary

0:54.2

uptick in tensions between North and South Korea. So for example North Korea

0:59.2

blew up and I mean this literally detonated the de facto South Korean embassy in Pyongyang

1:05.1

Kim Jong-un's sister who's a very high-ranking official in the regime

1:08.8

threatened war with South Korea a threat the North Korean government only recently walked back.

1:14.8

It feels like the past few years of diplomacy of attempted negotiations facilitated by the United

1:19.8

States has gone up in smoke.

1:23.0

Today and worldly, part of the Fox Media Podcast Network,

1:25.0

we are going to explain how this happened

1:28.0

and why it's happening.

1:30.0

I'm Zach Beecham here with Alex Ward.

1:32.0

Jen Williams is out doing something I don't know

1:35.5

vacation I think that's what it's called right vacation I believe it's a

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