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Is Trump letting Putin get away with murder?

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Zack and Jenn break down the growing scandal surrounding intelligence reports that Russia paid bounties to the Taliban to attack US troops in Afghanistan. They walk through the evidence so far that Russia did this and what Vladimir Putin’s motivations might have been. Then they talk about the evidence that Trump knew about it and did nothing — and how this points to a much bigger problem for American foreign policy in the Trump era. References: Zack has a really great explainer on the entire scandal Here’s a collection of some of the key New York Times reports on the story: the first story they broke; the story about the data on financial transfers from a bank account linked to Russia’s GRU to a Taliban-linked account; and the story about the Afghan businessman alleged to have been the intermediary in the Russian scheme. Here’s Trump’s tweet calling this all a “Fake News Media Hoax” nearly a week after the news first broke This is the AP piece reporting that Trump’s former National Security Adviser John Bolton personally briefed Trump on the intelligence in March 2019 And this is the New York Times report in which an intelligence official says the information was specifically included in Trump’s February 27 President’s Daily Brief Here’s more about one of the attacks on US forces in Afghanistan, outside Bagram Air Base, that is reportedly being investigated in connection with the Russian bounty scheme This is a New York Times piece from May 2020 about how hard it is to get Trump to pay attention to and absorb the information he’s being given in his intelligence briefings, based on interviews with 10 current and former intelligence officials And here’s a Politico report that talks about how White House officials particularly don’t enjoy having to brief Trump on Russia-related issues because of his negative reactions when they do: Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom

0:45.8

influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white

0:50.5

women falsely accused people of color of crimes usually fixates on the accuser,

0:55.0

the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the innocent couple at the heart of this story.

1:00.4

I just want the public to know what she did was wrong.

1:05.0

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen, available now wherever you get your podcasts. The Russian government appears to have been offering bounties on US soldiers last year in Afghanistan.

1:25.6

They paid Taliban militants to try to target and kill Americans, including possibly even directly financing the killing of some of them.

1:34.0

The Trump administration knew about this.

1:36.0

They knew about this as early as March 2019.

1:38.0

They knew about it in February of 2020,

1:41.0

and they've done nothing.

1:42.0

And since the information about this has gone public,

1:45.2

they have still done nothing. With just yesterday, President Trump declaring that the entire thing

1:49.6

which is backed up by what seems like a pretty voluminous amount of intelligence gathered by the

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