Hey guys, welcome to Normally, a show with Normalish takes for when the news gets weird. I am Mary

Catherine Ham. And I am Carol Markowitz. Happy New Year, Mary Catherine. Happy New Year. We begin again.

I get to have all new goals and maybe meet them.

All new takes. Or actually some of the same goals from last year. Yeah. And some of the same

takes, whatever. All good. How is true? How was your new year or what are you, what are you

gearing up for? Um, you you know i don't really do new

year's resolutions i i just constantly try for the same stuff like use the internet less read more

books that kind of thing so i don't have anything particular that i plan around new years i realize

that it's a big thing for people. So,

you know, I recognize that, you know, I see it also as a starting point the way other people

do. I just don't ever come up with anything worth starting with. I'm with you. I always try

the same things, which is like every year there's a new planner or a new

productivity tool that I'm like, yeah, this is definitely going to stick this time.

I can feel it.

I can feel it in my bones.

We'll check in late January and we will find that that's probably the case.

But who knows, maybe this year will be the one that I find the real one.

It's going to happen.

This could be the year you find the planner that helps you actually plan, yes. See, I believe. Okay. Shall we get to some news?

Yeah, let's do it. It was an exciting Christmas, New Year's holiday with a lot of arguing. It seems like there

was a rift in the manga movement before Trump even takes office. And it mostly stemmed from

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramoswamy coming out in favor of the H-1B visas, which are temporary work visas.

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