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The show with normalish takes for what the news gets weird.

I am Mary Catherine here.

And I'm Carol Markowitz, and we are in a government shutdown, Mary Catherine.

Can you feel the fear in the streets?

We are indeed in a government shutdown.

Look, people don't really care that much about this anymore.

Nobody cares.

Because it happens pretty often, and it usually gets repaired pretty quickly,

and it can cause inconvenience for people.

But the many, like, actually problematic political things are usually sort of sequestered from the shutdown so that

that stuff goes out like Social Security. I don't think anyone's going to notice or remember

or care by 2026 that this happened. They will remember in Virginia during this governor's race.

I do think that is a possible political cost.

Our friend Sonny Wright tweeted,

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