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The Liturgists Podcast

Nonviolent Forgiveness (I Forgive You)

The Liturgists Podcast

The Liturgists

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.83.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Can the idea of forgiveness actually be violent? In this episode, Michael talks about Gungor's new single "I Forgive You" and explores the idea of forgiveness looking through the different lenses presented in Marshall Rosenberg's "Nonviolent Communication".

Transcript

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0:00.0

All people are manifestations of the purpose.

0:05.6

Yeah, and I watch my daughters.

0:07.6

There is nobody that respects you on any longer than I do.

0:13.5

It is a love of crisis.

0:15.5

Oh, thank you.

0:18.7

This.

0:19.5

For a lot of my life, up until I think I was like 32,

0:24.9

I would repent under my breath.

0:27.4

It's a father forgive me of my sins.

0:31.2

For I mean, throughout most of the day,

0:35.8

a ridiculous amount of times.

0:37.5

I mean, on hard days, maybe hundreds of times, sometimes, dozens of times,

0:44.0

I don't know the number, but it was extreme.

0:48.2

Even when I didn't believe that God was some other being out there that needed me to repent,

0:54.4

it still existed in my body, this desire to be right with my creator, with my source,

1:02.0

to find some okness, and that was sort of the avenue that I took to try to be ok.

1:10.8

And it took me like fully letting go of all my concepts and beliefs about God,

1:17.7

to stop doing that.

1:20.9

But then even like several months later, after I had let go and started kind of re-approaching

1:26.2

spiritual practice, I noticed the temptation to bring repentance in again.

1:32.4

And I pretty quickly felt how that wasn't a great practice for me,

1:38.4

how that could really easily move into these sort of shame spirals again.

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