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Divided Argument

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Divided Argument

Will Baude & Dan Epps

Politics, Government, Justice, Legal, Supreme Court, News, Law

4.8766 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

We're back to break down a month's worth of shadow docket activity -- three recent summary reversals, plus the stay in the Texas gerrymandering case (Abbott v. LULAC). We also discuss the launch of the SCOTUSblog "interim docket blog."

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yeah.

0:03.5

The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court.

0:08.0

Unless there is any more question, be able to find an argument in this case.

0:11.0

All persons having business before the Honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States are admonished to give their attention.

0:20.0

Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, unpredictable Supreme Court podcast.

0:24.6

I'm Dan Epps, and I'm Elbeau.

0:27.2

We are back in the studios, so to speak, by which we mean our respective offices.

0:35.3

We are experimenting with a new recording software. We've had, we haven't shared

0:39.8

with our listeners all the travails, but we had multiple instances where we almost lost our

0:46.3

recording sessions. Yes, or half the recording session or, I think maybe we did lose one.

0:52.6

I mean, at least if we lose one. I mean, losing the whole thing.

1:11.1

I mean, at least if we lose one side of it, you know, if we lose half of it, you know, temporarily, yes, we would have half an episode. We had one where I think we were on the verge of having to release a 20-minute episode because we had like a little bit of content before something cut out. And then my son's dream of an all-chit-shad episode that would have been fulfilled.

1:12.7

Yeah, that would have been fulfilled uh yeah that that would have been uh good for some listeners bad for others um and it would have been

1:19.2

immensely disappointing um i've always wondered if that really happened would we try to just go

1:23.9

recreate the episode kind of like follow the beats of the original conversation?

1:30.2

No. You don't think so? No, I don't think we could do it. Well, you mentioned your son. I had a son-related

1:37.0

thing, which is so my oldest kid, he's 10. He doesn't have a phone as such. He has an old iPhone

1:44.0

that is not like capable of

1:45.7

calling or really using the internet, but he discovered recently that there is the podcast app on that

1:51.3

device. He found it and he found all the reviews and he came up to me and he said, dad, you know,

1:58.0

some people think that you talk about yourself too much.

2:04.9

And he had like gone through all the reviews and picked out the negative ones to kind of brass me about, which I admired. I don't know if either of your kids has figured out that

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