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5-4

Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, Government, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Papers, please. The hallmark of fascist states of eras past and your favorite movie about authoritarianism is now also the official policy of the United States, with the Supreme Court’s blessing. But don’t worry, you (probably) won’t be stopped, unless you kinda look Hispanic or shop at Home Depot! I feel safer already.


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5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, this is Leon from Prologue Projects.

0:07.2

On this episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about Nome v. V. Vasquez-Perdomo,

0:14.2

or recent case about federal immigration officers' use of race to detain people suspected of being

0:19.6

undocumented. This past summer, the Trump

0:22.3

administration directed ICE to ramp up deportations, leading agents in Los Angeles to detain people

0:27.9

based on a variety of seemingly unconstitutional factors. Five people who have been detained by

0:33.2

ICE sued the government, alleging violations of their civil rights.

0:40.9

In yet another shadow docket decision issued without a majority opinion,

0:43.6

the Supreme Court decided with the Trump administration.

0:53.3

The Supreme Court has now given the green light for law enforcement to profile and detain Angelinos based on their race. This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

0:58.5

Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have written

1:03.4

off our civil liberties like Donald Trump writing off a poem to Jeffrey Epstein.

1:09.5

I had to force that one, folks,

1:11.1

so that we could talk about the little poem

1:13.8

that Donald Trump wrote to Jeffrey Epstein.

1:16.0

With the horrific doodle.

1:18.5

I'm here with Michael.

1:20.2

Hey, everybody.

1:21.2

And Riannon.

1:22.0

Hello.

1:23.4

It's very funny that Donald Trump,

1:26.8

in his, like, sort of public presence right now, is just like an angry dipshit.

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