I'm Richard Porter. I'm Johnny Smith. And this is Smith and Smith a podcast in which two friends talk about cars and this week, no Gallagher's high-eidling Jaguars.

I was coming back late last night from a job. And you know when you start to get creative with your driving. And I was also...

I'm just going to leave my creative driving. I'm just going to leave that there.

What do you do tomorrow? I'm on my creative driving course.

Of course, yeah, exactly. That was good. I enjoy it. I was just doing a bit...

And also the music was really good. There was some good music on the radio, so it was getting me a bit sort of...

He heated up. I was getting... I was getting a bit bouncy.

It just reminds me of... I think I might have told you this before about a guy I used to work with who was famously a bit of an erratic slash terrifying driver.

And we had a new member of our team who got a lift from this guy. And when she got back to the office who went,

how was it being a passenger in the car? Were you okay?

Did he drive all right? And she went. She very polite young woman. And she went, he...

He was driving in quite an exotic manner. Exotic.

Exotic? And I've never forgotten that.

I'm basically someone who's absolutely winged up behind the wheel.

Just going, oh, he's driving quite exotically again.

But I like your creative driving as well. I think that's creative trouble.

How did your creative driving manifest itself last night?

I was great. I was doing plenty of... I was driving a Porsche Cayman GT4.

And I'm not going to tell you all about that because that's for a video on my channel.

But what would say it's obviously in that Porsche way a very satisfying mechanical experience.

But I had to take it back and drop it off at Porsche GB with a very sad emoji face.

And then my Zoe, which felt like I was driving on top of a...

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