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Hey everybody, welcome back to another Knock-On Podcast. I'm jacked about this one and hopefully we keep a good reception but I've got a pretty sweet freaking surprise for all you out there.

I've got Brendan Hansen with us on the podcast. Welcome to the podcast, dude.

Hey, thanks buddy. It's good to be here.

Well, I would not do you justice if I... All I know is that you're a badass swimmer. You freaking got gold medals with felps and if someone Googles you, they're going to see more six packs.

You've literally got like 700 Google images just flaunting all your riblets, your obliques, your six pack.

So, but damn, dude, I was so excited when our mutual friend, Ben O'Brien actually kind of hooked us together because you guys at the shop, which we'll get into, listen to the podcast and you listen to the podcast.

Coming from someone that's literally, you know, a world class, better than a world class swimmer and coach and instructor to come up and say positive things about what's going on in the archery world with what I'm doing is very, very, very humbling indeed.

Like, dude, we got to get on and talk about the relation to what you do and what we do and how all this jives together to help people out.

Yeah, and then you start with this little bromance talking about my body and how many give me...

Yeah, man, I think it was, you know, I think it's kind of cool how all that worked out. I think when you talk about my swimming career a little bit, it just, you know, all those things were benefits of...

All the hard work and everything that we did to go to the Olympics and race at that level and compete at that level.

And, you know, it was just one of those things that I think you kind of, once you're in it, you know, it's kind of hard to describe, but when you're in that process and you're chasing that dream and trying to go for that stuff, what a lot of people on the outside looking in are like, dude, you're crazy, man.

That's nuts. I can't believe you swim 70,000 meters a week or like 24 miles and you throw in nine dry land workouts or weight workouts in the mix with all that.

To me, in the time when I was doing it, it was just kind of... Is this going to give me the competitive edge to win, you know?

And so it was, I think what I loved about your podcast, I was a fan before we even met and I've been a fan archery for, we can get into why that is in a little bit, but, you know, I think what I love the most about what you teach and how you do this podcast and things is you talk so much about the process and not about, you know, the trophies and the big white tails that you shoot and all that kind of stuff, which I think is awesome too.

But at the same time, it's like you won't have any of that stuff if it doesn't come down to being obsessed with the process and the parallels between like that mindset and then the way in Olympian things are unprecedented, you know?

And I think that's like, that was kind of the conversation you and I had at ATA, which is about like that conversation and it was just, you know, it was cool and I think Benny kind of saw it, then saw that well before we did, you know, and he was like, you too need to meet and I'm like, oh, all right, cool, man.

That's awesome. I'm the fan, you know, like when then we started talking about it and it was like, wait a second, this is pretty cool.

I know. I wish we, I wish that, that Yeti dinner would have went a little longer because, yeah, we were currently in the element, you know, if you're, people don't, people don't understand that regardless of when you're really into something, the amount of reps or the amount of time or the amount of sacrifice, none of that's even relative.

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