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Nobels, Argument Logic. Oct 5, 2018, Part 1

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🗓️ 5 October 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

This week the fields of physics, chemistry, physiology, and medicine awarded its top scientists with its highest honor, the Nobel Prize. And this year, the annual celebration of scientific greatness was punctuated by a historic achievement: For the first time ever two female scientists won the award for both physics and chemistry, Dr. Donna Strickland and Dr. Frances Arnold. Dr. Arnold joins Ira to discuss her award and the legacy of female Nobel laureates. While most of us might think we’re logical people, we still butt heads when trying to persuade people we disagree with. So how can we solve seemingly insurmountable barriers? Abstract mathematician Eugenia Cheng is the author of a new book about how logic can help us agree—or at least disagree more helpfully. She walks Ira through the fallacies, axioms, and even emotions that can inform our arguments. Plus: Sarah Kaplan, science reporter at the Washington Post, joins Ira to talk about this year’s Nobel Prizes and efforts to make the awards more representative of the diversity in science, and other top science headlines, in this week's News Round-up.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. A bit later in the hour, how we can use logic to navigate our way through everyday arguments, divisive political issues, with a little help for mathematician, Eugenia Cheng. But first, this week, one of those rituals of science, the early morning wake-up call from Stockholm to a handful of researchers whose work has changed

0:22.7

their fields. Joining me now to talk about the prizes and other selected short subjects in science

0:27.6

is Sarah Kaplan, science reporter at the Washington Post. Welcome back. Thanks, good to be here.

0:33.6

Nice to have you. Let's walk through the Nobel's. We're planning to speak with chemistry Nobel-Nobelist Francis Arnold later this hour, but briefly, what did she win for?

0:43.2

Yeah, so Dr. Arnold and two other researchers, George Smith and Gregory Winter, were awarded the Chemistry Nobel for their work on directed evolution.

0:51.9

So this is basically, one person called it, applying the principles of Darwin in a test tube,

0:56.3

taking advantage of natural selection and using it to kind of direct bacteria or viruses

1:02.3

to produce molecules that can be used for all kinds of useful purposes, whether it's making

1:07.2

antibodies or biofuels or drugs.

1:10.4

And the chemistry prize was split with two other researchers, right?

1:14.8

Yeah, George Smith and Gregory Winter.

1:16.7

And what did they win for?

1:19.8

So they both work on this technique called phage display, which harnesses bacteria phages.

1:25.6

They are viruses that infect bacteria. And it's kind of

1:28.9

the similar principle, where you're taking advantage of these living systems to produce useful

1:34.4

molecules, proteins and antibodies that have all kinds of biological and medical applications.

1:39.6

And what about physics?

1:41.4

So in physics, the prize was awarded to three researchers who work with lasers.

1:46.3

Pretty cool.

1:47.8

Arthur Ashkin, Gerard Moreau, and Donna Strickland.

1:51.0

And they basically not just use lasers, but use lasers as tools.

1:55.3

So Ashkin developed this technique called optical tweezers, where he basically figured out that when you

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