It's Tuesday, April 7th, 2026 from Peachfish Productions.

It's the gist. I'm Mike Peska.

So yesterday, as you heard, I know you heard, I know you're a completist.

You heard me talk to Nob Shriver, author of Mutiny the Rise and Revolt of the College

Educated Working Class.

And it really is about that.

It's not about unions in general or longshoremen, pipe fitters, stevedores,

who are just longshoremen in different districts.

And I was reading recently known before I even remembered that he was the guy I will be interviewing

for this book.

And he writes excellently in the New York Times and so much what I know about unions or things that he reports. And he also gets into good federal reserve data. And he's

been chronicling, as you heard some of this in our first interview, how the college educated

have been screwed, relatively screwed by promises by the workforce. But he wrote that for decades,

many young graduates had earned good money even if their jobs didn't require a degree.

This is the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. But many of those roles like insurance agent

and human resource worker appear to start paying less or disappearing in the 2000s and never

recovered.

I'm not sure if bank teller is there, but people who have office jobs, who wore a suit,

who maybe technically didn't have to go to college and that job didn't require college,

but it de facto came to require college as everyone who took the human resources

job went to college and could study that in college. So the college educated once would take jobs

that didn't require college, but would do well, would do as well as their college educated peers in similar professions, but now are doing less well.

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