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The Gist

Freddie DeBoer and Devon Price on the "Identity Trap" of Neurodiversity

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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0:00.0

It's Wednesday, April 8th, 2026 from Peachfish Productions.

0:08.0

It's The Gist.

0:09.2

I'm Mike Peska.

0:10.7

One guy I used to read a lot, who I've read a little bit less, is Freddie DeBore.

0:15.3

He is a great arguer on the page, just pretty much a genius, a genius of the written word. He is also

0:23.4

what he wouldn't call neurodivergent. He has severe mental illness. But I was thinking about

0:29.5

this term neurodivergent. In fact, I was thinking about it many years ago. And I was thinking

0:34.7

about Freddie and I was thinking about the people who were using the term

0:38.3

more frequently.

0:40.5

And so what I decided to do in the next couple of shows are going to feature this format,

0:45.1

I had a debate.

0:46.5

You know, it wasn't knocked down, drag out.

0:48.4

But it was a debate between Freddie, who didn't like this overly subscribed use of

0:53.8

neurodivergent and a guy named

0:55.3

Devin Price, who is in the activist neurodivergent sphere, shall we say.

1:00.9

You know, I think most innovations when it comes to language are in fact not innovative,

1:09.6

innovative, innovative, I like saying it that way. It's fun to say., innovative, innovative.

1:11.8

I like saying it that way.

1:13.6

It's fun to say.

1:15.1

We love saying innovative.

1:17.2

I think they mostly set us back.

1:22.3

I think they mostly take the one or two syllables and add four or five syllables.

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