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🗓️ 5 December 2025
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In an obvious attempt to distract from any number of dumpster fires going on in the Trump administration - the Epstein files, the murderous Venezuelan boat strikes, or maybe just his inability to stay awake during his own cabinet meetings - Donald Trump posted to social media that he will be terminating all pardons and commutations issued by Joe Biden in the event he used an autopen to sign them.
Trump is forever exposing himself as not knowing what he's talking about, not to mention being supremely unfit for office, because a president of the United States has no lawful authority to revoke a pardon or commutation issued by a prior president.
Glenn sat down with law professor and constitutional scholar Kim Whaley to discuss this topic.
Kim has authored a wonderful, authoritative book on the pardon power titled (appropriately), "Pardon Power: How The Pardon System Works - And Why."
Find Kim on Substack: kimwehle.substack.com
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| 1:53.4 | So friends, in Donald Trump's latest attempt to distract us from the Epstein files, from his murderous boat strikes, or maybe to just try to |
| 2:05.5 | distract us from the fact that he can't stay awake in his own cabinet meetings? |
| 2:11.4 | Trump just posted any and all documents, proclamations, executive orders, memorandums, or contracts, signed by order of the now infamous and unauthorized auto pen within the administration of Joseph R. Biden Jr. are hereby null, void, and of no further force or effect. |
| 2:36.0 | Anyone receiving pardons, commutations, or any other legal documents so signed, |
| 2:42.6 | please be advised that said document has been fully and completely terminated and is of no legal effect. |
| 2:51.9 | Thank you for your attention to this matter. |
| 2:55.1 | Okay, friends, so can a president revoke a pardon granted by a prior president? |
| 3:03.3 | The answer is no. |
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