what's up everyone welcome back to the epic gardening podcast Josh satin is

back he's a filmmaker and a farmer and he shares just some really awesome stuff

all over the internet social media YouTube Instagram but today we're gonna

talk about no till and you know Josh for me as a as a more of a gardener and

less of a farmer I always hear no dig from guys like Charles Dowding and I

guess the first question I would have is there's no real functional

difference between those two philosophies right or is there not really for

whatever reason in the United States we call it no till and Europe they call it

no dig okay from what I kind of gather you know from guys like Charles

Dowding and Richard Perkins or the guys I've seen sort of spearheaded over in

Europe it's we also call it the deep compost mulch system which is another

term that's been tossed around in the last few years and I'm not really sure

where it came from but it's kind of what we've been using lately but essentially

yeah you layer material on top of the surface and you don't till okay that's

sort of the no dig approach okay so I so I that's what I surmised and I was

lucky enough to be in London I took a train down to Charles's house and you

know I did a full tour of his garden which is absolutely amazing and so you

know he says that he never dug even at the beginning right what I found at

least on my property I have relatively compacted clay soil that's been growing

nothing but weeds for probably like decades honestly the house is over a hundred

years old and so I've kind of come across a one-till method and I'm curious why

would I not let's say there's not a lot of soil life to preserve in the first

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