No Retirement Savings at 40? Here's Exactly What to Do First (SB1827)
The Stacking Benjamins Show
Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP
4.4 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Most people don't start thinking seriously about retirement until their forties. If that's you, the good news is you're not behind. You're normal. And this week three CFPs, Jackie Cummings Koski, Roger Whitney, and OG break down exactly what to do, in what order, starting right now.
In this episode:
Why panic is the enemy of a good retirement plan, the first place your money should go before anything else, why your savings rate matters more than finding the perfect investment, and the one investing mistake people make when they feel behind.
Biggest takeaways:
Give yourself grace first. This stuff isn't taught in school. The two years Jackie spent just processing her situation before taking action weren't wasted. That clarity is what made everything else stick.
Increase your savings rate by 1% every six months. Going from 3% to 13% over five years feels like a non-event the entire time. Automation makes it invisible.
Simple beats clever. Index funds, low cost, diversified, and boring. When you feel behind, the temptation is to swing for the fences. That's exactly when boring saves you.
Real estate and dividend strategies are tactics. Tactics come after you have a strategy. For a 40-year-old starting from zero, the strategy is build the habit and save more.
Resources mentioned:
- Jackie Cummings Koski's book Fire for Dummies and podcast Catching Up to FI at catchinguptofi.com
- Roger Whitney's Retirement Answer Man podcast at rogerwhitney.com
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| 0:00.0 | Is this your place? |
| 0:01.4 | No, no, no, no, no. |
| 0:03.4 | No, I live with my mom. |
| 0:04.8 | Oh. |
| 0:05.4 | Yeah. |
| 0:05.9 | You hungry? |
| 0:07.0 | Hey, Ma! |
| 0:07.9 | Can we get some meatloaf? |
| 0:14.1 | Live from the basement of the YouTube headquarters, it's the Stacking Benjamin Show. |
| 0:19.9 | Oh! |
| 0:28.6 | No! headquarters, it's the Stacking Benjamin's show. I'm Joe's mom's neighbor, Doug, and let's set the stage. |
| 0:31.9 | It's your 40th birthday party, no retirement savings, no plan, just a vague memory of buying doge coin once and maybe a |
| 0:40.8 | strong desire not to eat cat food at 75 years old. How would you begin to invest for retirement? |
| 0:47.1 | We'll tackle the good, bad, and ugly on today's show. But that's not all halfway through |
| 0:53.0 | this shindig. We'll roll out to our contributors |
| 0:55.7 | another episode in our year-long trivia competition. And now a guy who's going to help you compete |
| 1:02.6 | when it comes to setting up a great retirement portfolio. It's Joe Saul C-high. |
| 1:12.6 | Hey, thanks, Doug. |
| 1:13.6 | We're super happy that you're here with the Stackers. |
| 1:16.6 | Welcome to Friday, and man, we do have a great show today. |
| 1:20.6 | Doug, so many times people wake up and go, oh wait, I'm supposed to do what? |
| 1:25.6 | There's this thing that's been like nagging at me. |
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