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“No Pretense of Evenhanded Justice”

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MS NOW, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Trump changes his tune on the Epstein files. Plus: Judge blasts DOJ for potential misconduct in Comey case.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Maine Justice. It is Tuesday morning, November 18th. I'm Andrew Weissman,

0:10.4

and I'm here with Mary McCord. So Mary, you are the New York Times quote of the day today.

0:17.5

Do you want to tell us what your quote is? And that actually is it going to be a perfect segue

0:21.6

to what we're going to talk about. I believe the quote that is the quote of the day is half of the

0:27.3

quote that they actually publish, but it's probably the one that most explains what the topic is today,

0:33.4

which is there is no pretense of even-handed justice. That core principle is gone. And this is what I

0:40.2

told Glenn Thrush when he asked me on Friday. In fact, it was right after you and I appeared together

0:46.9

on deadline. And the quote is very similar to something I said on TV. But Glenn, this was on Friday

0:53.7

right after the attorney general Pam Bondi had, you know, within, I think Glenn reported 218 minutes of the president calling for her to launch criminal investigations against Democrats who appeared in the Epstein files. She said, you know, I,I, Captain, thank you, happy to do it. We're putting

1:13.1

Southern District of New York, U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton, on the job, and he will get going. And so,

1:18.6

you know, what I had told Glenn and the other part of the quote was, you know, whether you're

1:22.7

investigated or prosecuted or whether you are pardoned or your sentence is commuted depends on whether

1:28.3

you are a friend or an enemy of Donald Trump. So we're going to talk about that and talk about

1:33.1

sort of Epstein in a way that I think is different than the news is covering it, not to denigrate

1:39.1

the news that covering important things, but we have sort of different takes on it. But, you know,

1:43.4

what's so great about your

1:44.5

quote is it doesn't normalize the situation here, and it makes it clear. We're talking about

1:50.0

the White House directing the Department of Justice. That's one, which is that it's just a political

1:55.4

arm of the White House. And two, not only is a political arm, but it's going to be used to only go after

2:02.5

Democrats, which, you know, I think what I said when we were on deadline with Nicole Wallace was,

2:07.9

if I am representing Letitia James or James Comey, and there are pending motions now for vindictive

2:15.8

and selective prosecution. This is Exhibit A. Exhibit A, except that I would say

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