This is The Guardian.

I didn't grow up wanting to be a politician.

I'm a plumber.

And two weeks ago, during all this, I also qualified as a plasterer.

Because even in chaos, even under pressure, I get things done.

It was catastrophic, isn't it? It couldn't be any worse. I think the Greens in Manchester is the worst result we could have expected or we wanted.

Matthew Goodwin, you hope to be reform's ninth MP.

What went wrong?

Because it wasn't even close.

Sectarianism, that's what happened.

I think they're telling us that they want an alternative to this failing Labour government.

And it's why there's now no, no-go area for the Green Party in England and Wales.

It wasn't even close.

Kirstarmer's headache just turned into an existential meagrain,

as the Green Party won the previously safe seat of Gorton and Denton

and Labour finished third in a two-horse race behind Reform UK.

Is the Labour Party doomed?

And is this the end for Kirstarmer?

Again, I'm John Harris and you're

listening to Politics Weekly for The Guardian.

Joining me today are my Politics Weekly co-hosts, our political editor, Pippa Kriara,

and our policy editor, Kira and Stacey. Hello? Hello? Hi, John. Were you expecting

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