Yellow Parish Orphans and Retrogrades, a special episode today because I'm sitting down with Pastor Joel Webin, who has been making quite a splash on the internet.

His own sphere.

They're in Texas.

Joel, great to have you on Rules for Retrogrades.

Thanks for taking the time today.

Thank you for the invitation. I appreciate it.

You've been making a splash in the Protestant world in similar ways to that which I've

been trying to make in the Catholic world. But, you know, in a couple of ways, you're talking

about the role of patriarchy, the role of

fathers. You're also talking about secondarily and relatedly, the role of women in the home. This is

the real splash. No one gets mad when you talk about fathers need to do this, this or this.

But when you start talking about what women doing

what they haven't been doing, boy, you get in hot trouble. And thirdly, you've, you've talked

about something that I'd like to chat with you in the stream about, which is dispensationalism

and the Old Testament people and things like that. But that'll be, we'll kick that. That'll be the

locals only

segment after we talk about, I don't know, scripture. We say no scripture, no scriptural feminism.

What do you say? And when did you get on this topic?

Yeah, I just call it biblical patriarchy or, you know, sexed piety is a term that, you know,

some of my colleagues will use that I think makes sense.

For me, it was like 2018, 2019.

I was pastor in the church in California.

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