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Best Laid Plans

Nir Eyal: Planning to Fight Distractions EP 86

Best Laid Plans

Sarah Hart-Unger

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Self-improvement, Education

4.8756 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Nir Eyal is a former Stanford Business and Design School professor and most recently author of Indistractible: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life. Sarah greatly enjoyed the book and her interest was piqued even further when she heard Nir on another podcast essentially summing up his strategy as PLANNING as the best defense against a distracted life. In this conversation, Nir dives deeply into his research on distractions and how the strategy of planning can help fight the powerful urges to spend our time and attention in ways we never intended. Find out more about Nir Eyal and see links to his work a https://www.nirandfar.com! Episode Sponsor: Organize 365! To learn more about Lisa Woodruff’s work and her unique and inspiring programs, check out organize365.com, or go to organize365.com/minicourse for a free 7 days minicourse on getting yourself organized!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Best Laid Plans.

0:11.3

This is your host, Sarah Hart Unger, and this is a podcast where we talk all things planning

0:15.5

and planning adjacent.

0:17.2

Today I have for you a very exciting guest.

0:24.3

I heard Near Ayal on the Marriage Kids and Money podcast a couple months back. And I really heard him say something akin to, the secret to not

0:32.3

being distracted and living a life of intentionality is planning. And when he said that or something like that,

0:38.9

because I didn't copy it verbatim, I was like,

0:41.8

he must be a future guest on best laid plans.

0:44.9

So I submitted my information and I'm very, very excited that he is on the podcast today chatting with me.

0:51.7

If I had one wish list, it would be to learn a little bit more about

0:54.9

the specifics of how he plans. I don't feel like we got into that in great detail, so maybe

1:01.5

I'll have to do some sort of supplement in the future, but we still had a really nice conversation,

1:07.0

and I really enjoyed learning what he has learned over his course of study on the topic of

1:12.1

distraction. So without further ado, here comes the interview. I am so excited to welcome here

1:19.1

today, near Eyal, who is a best-selling author of the book Indestructible, which I very much enjoyed,

1:25.2

as well as a former Stanford professor. And I heard him on a podcast

1:30.3

recently that we'll talk about where he basically told everyone the secret to everything was planning.

1:35.1

And so I am so excited to have you on this show. Welcome, Near. Thank you so much. Good to be

1:40.3

here with you. So I greatly enjoyed indestructible.

1:45.0

And I think one of the reasons I did enjoy it was because I've always been a little bit fixated on planning and intentionality and just designing that life that really looks like you want it to.

1:56.4

And distractions are kind of like enemy number one when you are trying to do that.

2:02.5

What got you interested in looking at distraction?

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