Niko Stratis on Dad Rock, Glasswork, Depression, Addiction, and Becoming Herself
Depresh Mode with John Moe
Maximum Fun
4.9 • 854 Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | A brief note, there is mention of suicidality in this episode. |
| 0:06.5 | I'm going to go egghead for just a minute. Here, bear with me, semantics. Semantics is the |
| 0:13.2 | study of how the meaning of words and terms are used and how that usage evolves. So how we decide what words mean, how that changes, and how |
| 0:25.0 | that meaning is guided by the usage of those words. This isn't graduate school. Don't take notes. |
| 0:31.6 | But I wanted to put out the term semantics. Before I use the term, dad rock, because related. Dad rock can mean music |
| 0:40.5 | liked by dads, old dads, or young dads, or middle dads. It can mean music that sounds |
| 0:46.7 | like dads are making it. It can mean music that feels a generation older than what you |
| 0:53.3 | yourself are or listen to regularly. It can also |
| 0:57.6 | mean music, I think, that has a sadness to it, a world weariness, a wistfulness to it, a sense |
| 1:04.8 | of having been knocked around by life a little. Dad rock is very important to me. I'm a dad. I love music. I've been in |
| 1:14.7 | dad bands playing dad rock. I have attended concerts by Wilco and the National and the Hold Steady. |
| 1:22.3 | But there is no official registry of Dad Rock. Is the Steve Miller band in that classification? Pixies, M.J. |
| 1:31.5 | Lenderman, Amy Mann? Answers vary. What is a constant, however, is how people use music, not just |
| 1:40.2 | dad rock, but music, to imbue their life with meaning, always have, whether that's through |
| 1:46.0 | dad rock or death metal or Wagner operas, people feel understood by musicians, musicians |
| 1:53.9 | they've never met. They can feel empowered by that feeling of being understood to personally |
| 2:00.6 | define themselves and evolve |
| 2:03.6 | that definition, much like the semantic use of the term dadband. Sometimes music can be a vehicle |
| 2:11.7 | to take you to a truer version of yourself. It's depressmode. Wait, is Depeesh mode a dad band? Shrug. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're |
| 2:22.4 | here. Ooh, you know who else? I've seen live a lot. Old 97s. And in solo performance, |
| 2:28.6 | their frontman, Rhett Miller. Here's Rhett now. |
| 2:45.0 | Nico Stratus is the author of The Dad Rock that made me a woman. |
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