That's producer Matt everybody.

That was funny.

It's good.

No, it's good to hear laughs.

No, the funny is that's the first time he's laughed in the whole 40 minutes we've been recording.

From Topic Studios and WarnerMedia Podcast Network, this is politically reactive.

I'm W. Kamal Bell.

And I'm Hari Kunda Volu, aka the Johnny Appleseed of Comedy.

I've planned to joke Steve, and several years later, you finally get it and laugh.

I can't wait to get that one.

We're two friends and stand up comics and dads trying to make sense of American politics.

And every week, we fail to do so.

Because it seems impossible, because it doesn't make sense.

It's not supposed to make sense.

And this week, we have an absolute, unqualified legend on the show.

Poet Nikki Giovanni.

Ms. Giovanni came up in the civil rights era in the Black Power of Moons of the 1960s,

and she continues to tap into the energy of today's liberation movements.

I think of the whole planet as what do the girls say.

And now, the girls are saying black lives matter.

Nikki Giovanni is the author of more than two dozen books, poetry, essays and stories for children,

including her new collection, Make Me Ray.

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