And the devil says, you know the rules, it's within my rights to take Josh with me.

And at that moment, the dream shifted again, and it wasn't my dad that I was looking at.

There was a man in front of me and his back was facing me,

and I saw that he was sweating, drops of blood.

And all I heard him say was, don't take Josh, take me instead.

And I woke up.

This is touched by heaven.

Every day encounters with God, those moments.

When heaven and earth collide, and we see God in these encounter stories

with angels, divine intervention, prophetic dreams, visions, near-death experiences. Welcome. I'm your host,

Trapper Jack. Glad to report that Josh Jung is back with us. But first, before we start,

to you, what's normal supernatural?

I'm thinking we might all agree that, especially with these episodes,

well, I was talking to this guy, and I looked away for just a second, then I looked back,

and he was gone, and there was nowhere to go, and I'm thinking it was an angel.

I would call that kind of the normal supernatural.

Or I was in the car. I was by myself.

I'm starting to hit the gas. I hear stop. I hit the brakes and the semi blows through the red

light and I would have been crushed and, you know, normal, supernatural. Near death experiences

seem to becoming more normal supernatural. Just there's so many of them. Okay, now, then there's

Josh. Yeah, Josh

Jung. He was with us four years ago, episode 205. So before we hear Josh's news stories,

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