Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to the award-winning podcast.

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updates on podcast guests and lots of live events. Hi everybody. Thanks so much for listening.

I hope that you have had a chance to check out We Found Time. Wefoundtime.com, my new online

magazine. We have such amazing essays out this week and I really hope you'll take the time to go

read them or send them to friends or see what you think. And I'd love your feedback if you

have any thoughts. All the essays on We Found Time are written by authors who have been on this

podcast already. So it's original content and I think it's really awesome. So I really hope you'll

check it out. This week's sponsor is Nini's Treats, which is my in-laws' crumb cake business. And it is so good. And they had gone on hiatus for a little while, and they're back in business now, stronger than ever. And it's the best crumb cake and all different flavors. And you can order it on goldbelly.com. And their brand is called Nene's Treats. Neney is my husband Kyle's grandmother, N-E-N-E-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-R-T-E-A-N-E-A-A-R-E-A-R-E-E-A-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-E-R-E-E-E-R-E-E-E-R-E-E-E-R- and for everybody who is at home and going stir crazy, it will ship really quickly and fresh,

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or go buy it on goldbelly.com. I'm here today with Nicole C. Keir, who is the author of

the Middle Grade novel Foreverland, The Mem memoir Now I See You, which was on many

magazines best of lists, the chapter series, the Fixed Friends, and the startup squad.

Her essays have appeared in the modern love column of the New York Times, good housekeeping,

parents, salon, Huff Post, and more. She teaches nonfiction writing at Columbia University

and the NYU School of Professional Studies. A New York native, she received a BA from Yale University, an MA from Columbia, and a red nose from the San Francisco School of Circus Arts.

She currently lives in Brooklyn with her husband and three children.

Welcome Nicole.

Thanks so much for coming on Mom's Don't Have Time to Read Books.

Thank you for having me.

We are joined today by my two little guys

who are six and five and we'll see how they do, but they read your book Foreverland with me,

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