Hey friend welcome to the mere Christians podcast I'm Jordan

Rayner how does the gospel influence the work of near Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals,

but who work as podcasters,

college professors and gardeners?

That's the question we explore every week and today I'm

posing it to Nicki Gumble. He is the pioneer of Alpha, my absolute favorite tool

for sharing the gospel with the lost. I'm going to warn you

ahead of time. This episode's going to sound like an ad. I promise it's not. I'm not being

paid a dime to promote Alpha this hard. I just think it is hands down the best, maybe the only tool I've seen for wincely sharing the good news of Jesus Christ with those that you work with.

On this episode, Nicki and I talk about why that's the case.

We talk about how Ephesians should compel pastors to view themselves as the backline of

ministry and mere Christians as the front line and we talked about how to

draw out the deep well and others by listening to them, getting them to go from the surface, to the serious,

to the spiritual.

I am such a massive fan of Nicki and Alpha.

Please enjoy this great conversation

with my new friend,

Heke Gumbel.

He gumbel, it's an honor to have you on the Mir Christian's

podcast.

Welcome. It's great to be with you

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