Hey friend, welcome to the Muir Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians. Those of us who aren't

pastors or religious professionals but who work as programmers, carpenters and

researchers. That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to the one and only and

Biler. She's the founder of Aniad's Pretzels, the world's leading Pretzel franchise, which she sold back in 2005.

And then I recently sat down to talk about how Christ redeemed her horrific trauma and abuse she experienced early in her life.

We talked about how that trauma gave her purpose, an ambition for Annie Ann's, and how we can

all stop overcomplicating the presence of God.

I think you're going to love this episode with my new friend and by. And Biler, welcome to the Meer Christians podcast.

Thank you so much, Jordan.

I am thrilled to be on your podcast and excited to see what God will reveal as we talk.

I really wish I was eating a cinnamon sugar pretzel right now though I'm not gonna

luck. I mean you could have run out somewhere and got you one. I know I could have

you're everywhere. Hey you were raised in

Pennsylvania in this Amish Mennonite community. Your bio says it was there that

quote important life lessons were permanently weaved into the fabric of your life and

quote give us an example of that what do you learn growing up at a community like that?

Well mom and dad there were eight of us kids I'm the middle of three girls and then there are five

brothers and so living on a initially mom and dad were old order Amish horse and

buggy Amish and when I was about three they went to the Black Car Amish.

And so my whole world was the Amish community, aunts and uncles that were all Amish,

all of my cousins at one point, and there's 125 of them on both sides of my mom and dad.

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