It's cracking. Everybody, welcome to the Cat and Cloud podcast. This week, Jared's gone. He's in Disneyland. He's on vacation. He's with the fam nursing that broken rib, having the best time ever. Just go ahead and follow him on Instagram and check out all of his exploits, which leaves me all by myself. So I had to call in backup. And boy, did I get some pretty savage backup. This week, I sit down with

Nick Vargas. Nick is an artist. If you've ever been into any one of our cafes or seen any

of the murals on social media, Nick Vargas did all of those. He paints, but he cut his teeth on all

kinds of art. He's also a tattoo artist. A bunch of people on staff have Nick Vargas work.

Nick is one of the most humble artists that I've ever met. He's super respectful.

He really wants to work with people to make these things just come from nothing and explain.

It's like not about him, you know. He's got his own style, but it's not about him. I don't even know how I'm trying to describe this. I love to sit down with artists because I am kind of the biggest wannabe artist ever. So I think the people who can actually earn a living doing their art, I think that's one of the most amazing things ever. So this one's great for creatives, great for people who just love weird stories. It's great for the world. I'm going

to go ahead and claim it. I'm a shut up. Let's get into it with Nick Vargas. The Cat in Cloud

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You know, I come from a family of artists, and I feel like I always felt like the imposter, too. Do you know what I mean? Because I felt like I was never as good as them. But I started realizing in high school, that was, I had no choice. So it's one of those things I think you have to give yourself no choice and just do it kind of thing. Go all in with it or whatever.

I have an older sister and, you know,

pretty epic artist.

She's one of those things I think you have to give yourself no choice and just do it kind of thing. Like go all in with it or whatever.

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