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The Life Scientific

Nick Davies on cuckoos

The Life Scientific

BBC

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Science

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2016

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Nick Davies has been teasing apart the dark relationship between the cuckoo and the birds it tricks into bringing up its young, for more than three decades. The Professor of Behavioural Ecology at the University of Cambridge has spent more than 30 springs and summers on nearby fenland of watching, recording and crucially experimenting. Nick's studies have deployed simple yet ingenious experiments, among the reed beds where the birds nest. They have involved mock eggs, stuffed birds and miniature loudspeakers, to piece together the cuckoo's dark story. He has even swopped cuckoo chicks with blackbird nestlings in the nests of the feathered parasite's victims. No birds are harmed in his revealing tests.

Prof Davies also talks to Jim al-Khalili about the origins of his life with birds, and the revolution in animal behaviour science beginning as he began his scientific career. Ideas about the selfish gene and game theory, along with DNA fingerprint in the 1980's, transformed the research of zoologists asking 'why' questions about what animals do.

Producer: Andrew Luck-Baker.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are listening to a program from BBC Radio 4.

0:04.0

This is the sound at the heart of my guest's research.

0:13.0

The call is, of course, made by the common cuckoo,

0:15.8

the territorial song of the male, to be precise.

0:18.8

My guest is Nick Davis, professor of behavioral ecology at the University of Cambridge, a man who spent more

0:24.8

than 30 springs and summers on the Finland of Cambridgeshire teasing apart the relationship

0:30.2

between the cuckoo and the birds it dupes into bringing up its young.

0:34.0

Crucially his work isn't just about sitting there and twitching.

0:38.0

Nick studies have deployed simple yet ingenious experiments among the Reed beds where the birds nest that have involved

0:44.9

mock eggs, stuffed birds and miniature loud speakers all to piece together the cuckoo's dark story.

0:52.0

Oh and he's also used DNA fingerprinting to unravel the surprisingly

0:56.8

spicy love life of the humble hedge sparrow. Nick, welcome to the Life Scientific.

1:02.0

Thank you very much.

1:03.0

For you personally, Nick, what comes to mind when you hear that recording of the cuckoo?

1:08.0

Oh, I just think of spring days out on the fen and blue skies and just the thrill of being outside after a winter

1:15.5

inside at the desk. I introduced you as a professor of behavioral ecology. Can you

1:20.4

explain what behavioral ecology is and what aspects of the natural world it seeks to illuminate?

1:26.8

Yes, it's really attempting an evolutionary explanation of animal behavior looking at the decisions animals make in their daily lives

1:34.6

for survival and reproduction and asking why do they do that? Analyzing the costs and

1:40.2

benefits of alternative courses of action and trying to work out why the animals are choosing that way of behaving

1:46.0

rather than something else.

1:48.0

So it's a meeting point between behavior, ecology, which is the stage on which individuals play their behavior and evolution

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