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🗓️ 26 May 2023
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Nick Cave hates giving interviews. It’s the first thing he mentions in his new book, “Faith, Hope & Carnage”, which comprises a series of conversations between Cave and the writer Seán O’Hagan.
So it’s with some trepidation that Krishnan Guru-Murthy sits down with the post punk legend, to discuss the book, along with Cave’s attending the coronation, the tragic death of his son, his attitudes towards free speech and political correctness, and his journey to find - and define - happiness.
With thanks to the London Review Bookshop, where this interview was filmed.
Produced by Alice Wagstaffe.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World, I'm Chris Fingur in Murphy, and this is the |
0:05.5 | podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives |
0:10.0 | and the events that have helped shape them. |
0:13.1 | My guest this week is the songwriter, singer, professional conversationist, Nick K. And |
0:21.4 | the latest version, the Pay the Bad version of his book Faith Hope and Carnage, has just |
0:26.3 | been released, which is based on a series of conversations with Shauna Hagen, the writer |
0:33.0 | and journalist. And I have to admit to being a little nervous about this interview because |
0:38.0 | it begins and ends with Nick's disdain for the interview. It's lovely to be here, lovely |
0:45.4 | to be here. |
0:46.4 | I mean, you've actually been in the news in the last few days because of the coronation. |
0:53.3 | You have this blog in which you answer people's questions, comments, and some of them |
1:00.6 | would ask you about going to the coronation and you'll reply to lighted huge numbers |
1:04.6 | of people because it was candid and clear. |
1:08.2 | Yeah, I've had the blog for, or the Red Hand files, it's called, for about, I don't know, |
1:16.0 | maybe four years or so now. And mostly it's done in good faith. I get a lot of people |
1:25.4 | writing in and asking questions on all sorts of different things, beyond music, I would |
1:30.2 | say. |
1:31.2 | So that's around grief. There's a certain agony, aren't aspect to it, but occasionally |
1:42.5 | something happens which causes the sort of eye of people. And the coronation was one |
1:48.2 | that there was a certain amount of people that were writing and saying, why are you going |
1:52.7 | to the coronation? And I got a lot of amongst all the shrill horror of me going to the coronation |
2:00.4 | by a lot of people who wrote back into the Red Hand files. We then embedded within that, |
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