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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Nick Broomfield

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Arts, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Nick Broomfield is an award-winning documentary filmmaker. Over a career spanning more than five decades, he has made acclaimed films on subjects ranging from serial killer Aileen Wuornos and the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac Shakur, to Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love, Whitney Houston, and South African politics. He later expanded into what he calls “Direct Cinema,” using non-actors in scripted dramas such as Ghosts and Battle for Haditha to explore social and political fault lines with documentary immediacy. His experimental and investigative work has earned major honors, including a Sundance First Prize, a British Academy Award, and the DuPont-Columbia Award for Outstanding Journalism. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Athletic Nicotine https://www.AthleticNicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://Squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://DrinkLMNT.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

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0:00.0

Tetragrammaton

0:02.0

Tetragetamato I'd originally been offered to do a series about serial killers.

0:30.2

And Eileen was, for start, the only woman on the list.

0:35.4

And I didn't want to do a series, but I started doing some research and I called

0:40.6

up Eileen's lawyer, Steve Glazer. And the first thing he did was ask how much I was going to pay.

0:49.7

And I remembered there was the son of Sam Law, which was that people could not benefit from

0:57.0

the crimes that had been committed.

1:00.8

So I was immediately thinking, this is very strange.

1:04.0

The lawyer is asking me for money, in a sense, for him to benefit from...

1:09.7

Was that your first film in the US?

1:11.6

No, the Lily Jumlin was, yeah.

1:14.6

And I did tattooed tears as well.

1:17.6

So I had this phone conversation with Steve Glazer and then thought,

1:21.6

this was a really interesting way in.

1:24.6

In some ways, he's one of the stars of the movie, if I remember correctly.

1:28.2

He is.

1:29.8

He is.

1:30.8

You know, and he's the sort of, it's hard to really condemn him outright because he's a sweet

1:36.4

guy, but he's also incompetent and quite, you know, he defended marijuana growers and obviously had the best marijuana in Florida

1:46.6

for that reason, but was quite incapable of handling a capital murder case.

1:53.5

But Eileen loved Steve, you know, because he amused her and he was amusing.

1:59.5

You know, I mean, he'd'd say the best advice for my client is about

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