Tetrogrammaton When I first got the gig with John Leonard, I walked in and I got to work with him for two weeks in the very beginning.

I'm living in my mother's house in Brooklyn, right? Red Hook, Brooklyn. He said, Dad, you're not going to believe this. I got to work with John Lennon. He goes, lucky him. I said, what do you mean, lucky him? He goes, he's famous. Where's you going to find a good person? You'll be loyal to him. You're honest. Where's he going to find somebody like that? That's amazing. I mean, and by the way, I never got a weird ego because of it. Yeah. I just always felt like, oh, I belong here. Beautiful. I never felt like I don't belong. And like, that's why I never breathe my own exhaust. So I don't think like, oh, wow, I had a hit record. I'm like, who doesn't? You know what I mean? I was always

like, I'm here. This is what I'm doing. And it turned out good. Now, I'm insecure of my life

completely. I was, but I'm never insecure about where I am with my work. What do you insecure about?

It sounds like you have self-confidence. Now I have self-confidence

in my whole life. But growing up, you know, I was a little guy in Red Hook, Brooklyn, where the

currency, well, I'm psychoanalyzing myself. I watched the Martin Scorsese documentary the other

day. I felt like I was watching myself. Same story. You know, little guy,

tough neighborhood, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The currency in my neighborhood was athletics and physicality, you know, if you were a tough guy. I didn't

either one. Yeah. Then what happened was in 63, music became a currency.

And I went all in on that.

And that's how I ended up where I am.

But those other two things, stay with you.

You know, you become insecure about girls because that's who the girls go out with.

Right?

You want to be a football hero.

So I'm making this up right now. I went to a lot of psychotherapy in my life. I think that's where it's coming from. But then eventually I started to get more confidence about myself and I feel really good now. But I've never, I never felt I was going to go somewhere somebody wasn't going to like me. I know that sounds weird, but I know people

feel that. People feel that. They go to a party. They go, oh, my God. I go to a party. I figured,

you know. Life for the party. Let's go, right? You know what I mean? Okay, it was party. John Lennon

brought me to a party once. He brought me. It was him, Ringo, Harry Nielsen, and me and Richard Perry.

We went to Roman Polanski's party. What was that like? It was out there. It was everything

you think it should and shouldn't be. So I went there, but I remember I didn't feel like

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