Nicholas Kristof on good news in a bad world; Steve Lopez on aging
To the Point
KCRW
4.4 • 583 Ratings
🗓️ 10 March 2023
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Despite war and pandemic, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof finds good news in a “stunning” decline of worldwide poverty and “extraordinary” improvements in child mortality. Los Angeles Times columnist Steve Lopez examines retirement options for an aging population as he finds himself getting older.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello again, I'm Warren Alney. On this last episode of our To The Point podcast, The State of the World, with pandemics, climate change, and nuclear weapons, Are things really as bad as they seem? Or are |
| 0:22.6 | we all just programmed with a cognitive bias in favor of bad news? We'll talk with Nicholas |
| 0:28.2 | Christoph, who's looking for good news. And as the population ages in California, Steve |
| 0:34.6 | Lopez is calling his LA Times column The Golden Years. |
| 0:38.3 | We'll hear about his extensive research into possible options for a happy, even constructive |
| 0:43.3 | retirement. |
| 0:45.3 | First, Nicholas Christoph, a journalist with experience all over the world, and a one-time |
| 0:50.3 | prospective candidate for governor of Oregon. |
| 0:52.3 | Now back to his New York Times column on human rights, |
| 0:56.4 | women's rights, health, and global affairs. Hey, Christoph, welcome. Great to be with you, Warren. |
| 1:03.1 | You have been writing every year a column saying that, hey, this was the best year in human history. |
| 1:11.2 | Now you say last year, you couldn't quite say that anymore. |
| 1:16.2 | Why couldn't you say that anymore? |
| 1:17.9 | And why do you want to say it in the first place? |
| 1:20.7 | So, I mean, COVID, the pandemic definitely sent the world into a loop. |
| 1:30.4 | You know, it lowered education standards, |
| 1:37.0 | it initially lifted poverty, global poverty. And so it was a, it was definitely a setback. |
| 1:42.5 | But the reason I want to make the point is that I think that the world is way better off than we tend to think it is. And I think that that is |
| 1:45.5 | partly because of a cognitive bias and the part of the public toward, you know, towards threats, |
| 1:50.8 | toward bad news. And I think it's partly a bias in how we and the journalism world cover the |
| 1:55.8 | news and how nonprofits call attention to problems. You know, there's a crisis, and I fly off to cover it, |
| 2:03.9 | and nonprofits are warning about the danger, |
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