For the first time in Iran’s history, women are leading a counter-revolution
To the Point
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🗓️ 5 December 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Writer and author of The Great Revolution: Turmoil and Transformation in Iran, Robin Wright says that after weeks of protest on the streets of Iran, “for the first time in human history, you're beginning to see a counter revolution ignited by women. ” Later, despite the failure of the UN’s leadership conference on climate change, New York Times science reporter David Wallace-Wells says, “we're moving much faster than most analysts projected a few years ago,” and says the climate crisis is not as bad as he thought when he wrote,”The Uninhabitable Earth” five years ago.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello again, welcome to our To The Point podcast. I'm Ormina Aldi. Did COP 27 make any progress in the fight against climate change? |
| 0:12.0 | David Wallace Wells tells us the meeting of world leaders wasn't as bad as it looked, and he says the future of global warming isn't as bad as he thought it was just a few years ago. |
| 0:21.6 | We'll hear from him, but first, the historic protest of a new generation of women against Iran's |
| 0:27.1 | Islamic Revolution. If you weren't paying attention, it cropped up at this year's World Cup |
| 0:32.2 | when Iran attacked the U.S. for a symbolic gesture on behalf of Iranian women's rights. |
| 0:38.9 | Robin Wright, who reports for the New Yorker about her frequent trips to Iran, tells us how things are changing in Iran itself |
| 0:44.0 | and in diplomatic relations. So, Robin Wright, thank you so much for joining us. Always great to be |
| 0:49.4 | with you, Warren. This is a far cry from the last time that the United States and Iran met in the World Cup. |
| 0:55.7 | It is indeed. |
| 0:56.4 | In 1998, both President Clinton in the United States and President Khatmi in Iran had been working for basically almost a year to try to better connections between the two, largely through person to person or track to diplomacy. |
| 1:16.0 | And President Clinton even said at the time that both nations had been working to encourage exchanges |
| 1:22.8 | and to help people develop a better understanding of each other's rich civilizations. |
| 1:27.9 | Today you see in some ways unprecedented tensions between the two nations, |
| 1:34.7 | probably not as bad since the early days of the revolution in the late 1970s and early 1980s. |
| 1:41.2 | What all this is about, of course, is a challenge to the revolutionary regime |
| 1:46.5 | by women. Tell us how that began and how it's working out right now. The protest began on |
| 1:54.4 | September 16th after the death of Masa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurdish woman who was visiting Tehran, and the morality police |
| 2:04.7 | objected to her headscarf. Apparently it wasn't, her hair wasn't covered sufficiently, |
| 2:10.2 | and she was hauled away to a detention center. What we don't know is what happened in the vehicle, |
| 2:16.2 | because once she got to the detention |
| 2:17.8 | center, she collapsed. |
| 2:20.1 | And there is video of that, which has gone viral on social media. |
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