This is Ben Norton with the Gray Zone.

I just sat down for an interview with Michael Campbell, a foreign policy advisor to Nicaragua's president, Daniel Ortega, and an alternative representative for Nicaragua at the Organization of American States.

We discussed Nicaragua's historic decision to leave the OAS.

We talked about attempts to discredit

Nicaragua's November 7th, 2021 elections,

and we discussed the importance of Nicaragua's Caribbean coast

and the political autonomy for people of African descent

and indigenous communities in Nicaragua.

Michael Campbell, thanks for agreeing to an interview.

Nicaragua has just made the historic decision of leaving the organization of American states.

Can you talk about why Nicaragua decided to do this?

Thank you very much first of all for the interest in interviewing us.

Nicaragua has historically been under attack

by the Organization of American States.

Why we decided to leave, I think it comes

because of the latest round of attacks,

particularly because the organization of American

states assumed a most aggressive attitude against Nicaragua after our, before, during, and after,

our most recent electoral process.

As some would say, that was the last drop that poured over the glass.

Because here in Nicaragua, we are very proud of the way that we conduct elections.

Elections in Nicaragua are a way of ensuring peace. Every single electoral process has a very

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