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NFTs and Art, Neuralink, Preserving Endangered Foods. May 14, 2021, Part 2

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🗓️ 14 May 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

What’s Behind The Blockchain-Based Art Boom? From multi-million dollar art sales to short NBA video clips, non-fungible tokens have taken off as a way to license media in the digital realm. The blockchain-based tokens, which function as a certificate of ownership for purchasers, produce a dramatic amount of carbon emissions and aren’t actually new—but in the first quarter of 2021, buyers spent $2 billion dollars purchasing NFTs on online marketplaces. Writers, musicians, and artists are all now experimenting with them, and big brands are also jumping on the bandwagon. Ira talks to Decrypt Media editor-in-chief Dan Roberts, and LA-based artist Vakseen about the appeal, and how NFTs are bringing new audiences both to the blockchain economy, and artists themselves. How Novel Is Neuralink? Last month, the company Neuralink, co-founded by Elon Musk, released a video update of their technology. The company makes brain-computer interfaces, or BCIs—implants in the brain that detect signals and send them to a computer. In the video, a macaque named Pager sits in front of a screen, while a narrator explains Pager had two Neuralinks implanted in both sides of his brain six weeks before. Pager is playing Pong. Not with a joystick or controller, but with his brain, according to the narrator. As with any Elon Musk venture, this Neuralink video got a lot of buzz. But brain-computer interfaces themselves are not a new concept. Where does this fit into the realm of neurotechnology research? Joining Ira to talk about this Neuralink update is Dr. Paul Nuyujukian, director of Stanford University’s Brain Interfacing Laboratory in Palo Alto, California. Ira also turns to Nathan Copeland, a neurotechnology consultant and brain-computer interface participant in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Six years ago, Copeland had four BCI devices implanted, and is one of just a handful of people to have BCI implants in his brain. Decolonizing And Diversifying The Future Of Food The Science Friday Book Club has been talking about food all spring while reading Lost Feast: Culinary Extinction and the Future of Food. We discussed the impacts of meat consumption, the extinction of beloved birds and plants, and the declining variety of fruit and vegetable varieties available in stores—and even about the flow of pollinator-produced crops in global food systems.  Producer Christie Taylor shares highlights from our off-radio Zoom event series, which asked, “What is the future of food, and who can help influence it for the better?” At this April 20th panel, Lost Feast author and food geographer Lenore Newman joined farmer and former chef Mimi Edelman to talk about the future of food and flavor—from preserving heirloom seeds to the stories behind beloved flavors, and how policy changes and individual actions might contribute to a sustainable future. At this May 4th panel, food researchers Katie Kamelamela, Noa Kekuewa Lincoln, and Melissa K. Nelson talked about their work researching and restoring Indigenous foods to Hawaii and the mainland United States. They explained how these foods were disrupted by colonization, and how food relationships fit into a future vision of sustainable food worldwide.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Last month, the company Neurrelink, co-founded by Elon Musk,

0:06.5

released a video update of its technology. The company makes brain computer interfaces. These are

0:13.0

implants in the head that detect signals and send them to a computer. In the video, a macaque named

0:20.8

pager sits in front of a screen,

0:23.1

while a narrator explains that Pager has two neuralinks implanted six weeks before.

0:29.4

If you look carefully, you can see that the fur on his head hasn't quite fully grown back yet.

0:34.8

He's learned to interact with a computer for a tasty banana smoothie

0:38.5

delivered through a straw. While he sucks down his smoothie, Pager is playing Pong, not with his

0:44.9

hand on a joystick or controller, but with his brain. To control his paddle on the right

0:51.7

side of the screen, Pager simply thinks about moving his hand up or

0:55.7

down. We've removed a joystick altogether. As with any Elon Musk venture, this NeuroLink video

1:01.9

got a lot of buzz. But where does it fit in the realm of brain computer interface, BCI research?

1:10.3

Joining me to think this through is Dr. Paul Niu-Jukian,

1:14.1

director of Stanford University's Brain Interfacing Laboratory in Palo Alto, California. Welcome to

1:20.0

Science Friday. Thank you very much, Ira. It's great to be here. Paul, when you look at the

1:24.5

video, seeing a monkey controlling a video game just by thinking about moving the paddles, it really does look amazing.

1:31.8

But what do you, as someone in this field, take away from this video?

1:36.3

A really good question, Ira.

1:37.5

And, I mean, part of me, I think, will always feel that sense of amazement every time I see it, because it is amazing, right?

1:45.7

To think about something,

1:51.2

whether it's a cursor or robotic arm being controlled by thoughts from the brain directly.

1:56.6

What we're seeing, though, is something that isn't novel necessarily to the field of neuroengineering and neuroprosthetics. This is something that the academic sphere has been working on for decades at this point.

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