NFL Offseason Mailbag: Browns-Rams Trade Dissected, Jared Verse's Ceiling, Andrew Berry's Rebuild Vision + Rams GM Les Snead's Art of the Big Swing
3 and Out with John Middlekauff
iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
4.8 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of 3 & Out, John Middlekauff continues to break down the blockbuster Myles Garrett trade and what it means for both the Los Angeles Rams and Cleveland Browns moving forward.
John explains why Rams GM Les Snead has never been afraid to take major swings, how that aggressive philosophy has shaped the franchise, and why adding a player of Garrett’s caliber fits perfectly with the Rams’ approach to team building.
On the other side of the deal, John examines why Browns GM Andrew Berry ultimately decided to pull the trigger. Was it about maximizing value, resetting the roster, or recognizing where the franchise stands? John breaks down the difficult decisions that front offices face when moving elite talent and what this trade says about Cleveland’s future.
To wrap things up, it’s the Middlekauff Mailbag, with John answering your questions and offering insight on the biggest stories across the NFL.
From front-office strategy to roster construction and the fallout from one of the biggest trades of the year, it’s all covered on this episode of 3 & Out.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:05.2 | The volume. |
| 0:19.5 | What is going on, my people? |
| 0:21.7 | John Middilcoff, Three and Out podcast. |
| 0:23.8 | How are we doing? |
| 0:25.9 | Hopefully, everyone's doing as well as Miles Garrett. |
| 0:28.4 | He had a big smile on today. |
| 0:30.1 | I watched Andrew Barry's press conference in Cleveland. |
| 0:32.9 | I watched Les Need McVeigh with Miles Garrett today in Los Angeles. |
| 0:38.9 | And yeah, I was planning on just doing a big mailbag, but I was like, I, I'm taking |
| 0:44.8 | about 24 hours. |
| 0:45.9 | One of the biggest trades in NFL history, I'll kind of rehash some stuff that I've been |
| 0:51.0 | thinking about, and then we'll go into the mailbag, which the first four or five |
| 0:54.3 | questions are heavily on this topic anyway. I mean, it's got to be one of the biggest, didn't |
| 1:01.1 | see that one coming on June 1st that we'll ever get as long as I've been doing this. And I'm not |
| 1:07.4 | mad at it. You're going to give me a trade like that when I need to put together a podcast in June. |
| 1:13.7 | I'm all for it. |
| 1:14.6 | I could use another one this week as well. |
| 1:17.1 | So, or next, actually save it next week. |
| 1:19.3 | Save it for next week. |
| 1:20.6 | But yeah, that's the game plan today. |
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