I'm John Passworth, my colleague and friend, Epinellis of the U.S. Army War College.

We begin in Guyana, where 800,000 people, a large diaspora in Brooklyn, New York, for

having sex, and I'm told that there are a goodly healthy number of Guineas in America in

the same district as the minority leader in the House of Representatives, Mr. Jeffries.

irony here, but we go immediately to an area that the Wall Street Journal, look at your

story, it's a map, it's called Guyana Esquiba, and it's land claimed by Venezuela based

upon treaties and decisions made by the British government more than 100 years ago, and that

leads us to Venezuela.

Professor, I don't know this story in the Wall Street Journal does not feature Venezuela's

claims and actions, but I recall there was something about a drone over the Guyana Esquiba

for mapping purposes or claims purposes.

Is Venezuela armed and ready to contest this oil discovery?

Well, John, certainly the size and the capabilities of the Venezuelan military just dwarfs with

the Guineas at defense forces, and so in many ways, Guyana relies on the use of established

international legal mechanisms, such as the International Court of Justice, where the

actual claim is right now, and really, it's a claim that in all likelihood we'll go

and favor the Guineas.

Basically, if you go back to the days when there was, back in the late 19th century, there

was a lot of ambiguity over exactly where river borders and things like that were, and so

there was some question of what was then essentially British Guyana and the newly independent state

of Venezuela of where their border was.

It went to arbitration, and there was some question of whether the supposedly neutral arbitrator

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