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#NEWWORLDREPORT: UNRESOLVED PANAMA SECURITY. LATIN AMERICAN RESEARCH PROFESSOR EVAN ELLIS, U.S. ARMY WAR COLLEGE STRATEGIC STUDIES INSTITUTE. @REVANELLIS #NEWWORLDREPORTELLIS

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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#NEWWORLDREPORT:  UNRESOLVED PANAMA SECURITY. LATIN AMERICAN RESEARCH PROFESSOR EVAN ELLIS, U.S. ARMY WAR COLLEGE STRATEGIC STUDIES INSTITUTE. @REVANELLIS #NEWWORLDREPORTELLIS
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with my colleague Evan Ellis, who is in Costa Rica, lucky fellow.

0:08.4

However, we're headed south to Panama.

0:11.3

Evan, I want to update the Panama story because things are hanging around and haven't been resolved.

0:17.2

First thing I learn is that the tension between Washington and Panama City over the Chinese influence of two port facilities, one on either side of the canal, has not been resolved.

0:29.2

That the private equity company, I believe was BlackRock, the bid for those ports around the world, including the two Panama ports at the other side of the

0:39.9

canal, is remaining unfinished because of interference, kibitzing, I don't know, they're polite

0:48.3

words and they're impolite words, by the Chinese Communist Party to hold up the sale,

0:53.7

though there was money on the table.

0:56.2

The second matter that has been resolved is the visits of Mr. Rubio right away, right after

1:02.0

his confirmation. And then I believe Mr. Hegeseth visited as well to speak with President

1:09.1

Molino about the Chinese interference or presence,

1:13.1

and also about the possibility of the U.S. basing jungle training school in Panama,

1:19.0

which would be a return of the U.S. security blanket in some fashion.

1:24.1

Either of those issues, have they been resolved,

1:26.3

either the jungle training school and the U.S. presence

1:29.6

reinvigorating the security of Panama

1:32.4

or the two ports out of Hong Kong.

1:38.3

Well, John, certainly all of these issues

1:40.5

and the associated maneuverings are in process.

1:43.7

With respect to BlackRock, to me, it's

1:45.6

an interesting show of the way that China continues to have the ability to exert leverage over

1:52.0

companies, even if companies are not traditional SOEs. And so in the case of Hutchison, which has

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