This is the New World Report. I'm John Batch with my colleagues Joseph Humair, Ernesto

Arrujo, Peru and Ecuador, strikingly similar. Ernesto, I start with you because you observe

these from the 20,000 feet in the air foreign ministry point of view. And I welcome that.

Because right now in Peru, we have a new president who was the vice president, Dean

Obelotti. You know this very well. The former president was removed by the legislature

and he's now charged with betrayal, treason, disorder, awaiting trial. And in Ecuador, we

have a president, a president, Lazo, who is now being challenged by his assembly. Impietzment

is called for to remove him. Although in both instances, they're not exactly parallel,

but it is the legislature rising up to challenge the elected president. Is there a pattern

here that you see Ernesto or is he these just random events in countries that are abridged

each other? John, I think there is a pattern, but we should not look at the formal pattern,

which is political systems challenging, I mean, political institutions challenging elected

presidents, rather what is behind that? And we should ask the Cuibono. And Cuibono in both

cases is the the Narcosocialist project for the region. They want to create instability

in Peru and they want to create instability in Ecuador in both cases to drive those countries

squarely into the San Paulo Forum project into the Narcosocialist project. So in Peru,

they use this social turmoil in order to force the president, Belarthe, to call for new

elections and a new constitution that probably the more radical arm of the country or more

radical currents would take over it. So and in Ecuador, there's this sort of center

right president that well doesn't have the project as they would like to. So they want

to create instability for him as well. In every case, it's the same actors that use different

instruments in order to get to power. Joseph, I mentioned these apparently parallel events,

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