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Rugby Union Weekly

New Zealand v South Africa: Rugby's greatest rivalry

Rugby Union Weekly

BBC

Sports, Sports News, News, Rugby

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

To kickstart World Cup final week Sara sits down with All Blacks great Andrew Mehrtens and former Springbok captain Bob Skinstad to look at the rivalry between these two great rugby nations. They start with their most famous encounter, the 1995 World Cup final, as Mehrts recalls meeting Nelson Mandela minutes before kick-off and the issues in the New Zealand camp during final week. We hear about the All Blacks winning their first Test series in South Africa one year later, and look ahead to the final this weekend as the winner becomes the first nation to win four World Cups. Skinstad explains what would it mean for the Boks to go back-to-back and gives a fascinating insight into head coach Jacques Nienaber.

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0:31.5

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find

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plenty more. I'm Mark Chapman and this is Everton. Nothing will be the same. This is the story of what happened over one of the most difficult

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and controversial seasons in the club's history. We go down I don't think

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we'll even exist in five years. We've been inside the club talking to players, coaches and managers.

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I had nine and a half years in my previous club. I probably got one book in me in 4 months

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Five Lives Rugby Union Daily

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at the Rugby World Cup. Well, it is Rugby World Cup final week. We finally made it. Now for anyone listening

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and they're thinking about everything that has gone on the semifinals go back to

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yesterday's

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POD all the reaction particularly to that huge semifinal between England and

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