Hello, Ben.

Lovely to see you again.

Hello. Welcome back to the Video Gamer podcast. How have you been the last, how long has it been since we talked two, three months?

Who knows? Time is an illusion. I've been a busy boy. So I have no idea how long it is.

Lots of chatting with people.

Lots of bringing a game into land.

You know, keep shit of trouble.

Well, I think the last time we talked was, I can't remember if it was, I think it was eight

or nine weeks before Attenfall was set to launch.

And at the time, were very very stressed.

As I imagine everyone is two months before the launch of a project they've spent years on.

That's appropriate, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I'm stressed as soon as anything I release is being made or released.

So it's just constant stress.

I was wondering, first and foremost, those, after we last talked,

what were those last couple months like for you and everyone at Rebellion working on Amphal?

Well, it's an interesting balancing act, because as you get to the absolute tail end,

you've got a big list of fine tunes and tweaks you'd like to make

and things you would adjust given the time, but then they have ripple effects.

So you want to choose carefully what you change, so they've got time to bed in and all those sorts of things.

So it's a sort of balancing act between knowing what you've got to get done, what you'd like to do. What helps is

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