Despite Democratic concerns about Biden's candidacy, new polling out today shows the state of the race has not drastically changed since the debate.

To walk us through these new numbers, I'm joined now by NPRs, Dominico, Montanaro.

Always good to see you. So as more lawmakers are coming out, calling for him to step aside,

the question has been how voters look at this. The latest numbers from PBS and PR Maris polls actually show that Mr.

Biden is now leading former President Trump 50 to 48 in a head-to-head match-up.

When third parties, however, are factored in,

he slips slightly, but it's still a statistical

dead heat there with Trump at 43%, Biden at 42.

What stands out to you about those numbers?

Well, I mean, it's been a marginal race the entire time.

Not much clearly has changed nationally

when it comes to Trump versus Biden.

I also think, you know, we still have to take into consideration

that there is humongous antipathy

toward Donald Trump. I mean you easily could see in all these numbers that

more than half the country doesn't want Donald Trump to be president again

but it's really less Joe Biden versus

Donald Trump somewhat and Joe Biden versus the couch.

So should we take these numbers to mean that voters don't actually have the same

concerns about Biden's age or his

mental acuity as Democratic lawmakers who are asking him to step down to?

Not necessarily and the other question is what are their choices right but when we

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