Let's shift our focus now to the Trump campaign. A new peace in the Atlantic offers a rare

behind-the-scenes look at Donald Trump's re-election effort. Staff writer Tim Alberta

embedded with the campaign this past spring and spoke with Trump campaign co- managers

Susie Wiles and Chris Las Avita for a piece titled Trump is planning for a landslide

win. Tim Alberta joins us now. Thanks so much for being with us.

Hey, thanks Jeff, my pleasure. When you write that Donald Trump and his campaign

are planning for a landslide, what accounts for that level of confidence? What is it rooted in?

Well, a couple of things, Jeff. I think first, the context matters quite a bit here.

When you think about the past two presidential elections, 2016, won very narrowly by Donald Trump.

We're talking about a difference at the end of the day of 77,744 votes spread across three states. That was Donald Trump's margin of victory in 2016.

And then in 2020 was actually even tighter. Joe Biden won by a combined 42,918 votes spread across three states.

So we've had these consecutive nail biters

in the electoral college.

And the Trump campaign sort of looks at 2024 in that context and they are now running a campaign that is far more sophisticated,

far more efficient with its money, far more professional from the top down, and they also believe

that they are running against the weakest candidate in any of those three elections.

So to be clear, Jeff, the confidence is really not rooted in Donald Trump.

It is rooted in Joe Biden.

The Trump campaign believes that Biden is a fundamentally flawed candidate

and that they are actually sort of building a campaign that is specifically designed to draw out and exacerbate his key weaknesses as an opponent.

And to be clear, all of this was well before

the debate in late June that has the Democrats now

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