New Jan. 6 witness: Trump had mystery call with Putin

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🗓️ 24 June 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

If documentary filmmaker Alex Holder’s memory is accurate, Donald Trump was on the phone with Vladimir Putin just minutes after the news broke that the Russian president had dismissed Trump’s Hunter Biden allegations. Holder began filming former President Donald Trump in September 2020 during his campaign for reelection. In the runup to the election and continuing after they left office, Holder had extensive access to film and interview Trump, his inner circle and former Vice President Mike Pence. The House select committee investigating Jan. 6 recently sent a subpoena to Holder for raw footage related to interviews and discussions Holder recorded, as well as raw footage from Jan. 6 when Holder and his cameraman were there filming as the mob attacked the Capitol. On Thursday, shortly after Holder finished talking to Jan. 6 investigators, Ryan Lizza met Holder at his hotel. On this week’s Playbook Deep Dive, Holder talks about what it’s like behind the scenes filming Trumpworld, the significance of his project and potential impact of the footage subpoenaed by the Jan. 6 Committee. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Alex Holder is a documentary filmmaker. Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is a producer for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	On Monday, I didn't exist and had 115 Twitter followers.
0:06.0	115, three digits.
0:10.0	And today, I think I have close to 20,000.
0:14.0	It just followed you on the way in here.
0:18.0	Pretty big jump in only four days.
0:20.0	Alex Holder has been all over the news this week.
0:24.0	He came to Washington on Thursday for a closed door deposition
0:29.0	in front of the House Select Committee investigating January 6th.
0:34.0	Soon after he finished testifying, we met at his hotel.
0:38.0	Holder walked into the lobby with a private security guard,
0:41.0	a sign of just how drastically his life had changed.
0:47.0	On Monday, my colleague Eugene Daniels and I got a tip.
0:51.0	And it was a good one.
0:53.0	A new piece of information about the January 6th investigation.
0:57.0	I'm Ryan Liza. This is Playbook Deep Dive.
1:07.0	In the run-up to the 2020 election and for months afterward,
1:11.0	Holder, who was a filmmaker, shot hours of interviews
1:15.0	with Trump and his inner circle, including the Trump kids
1:19.0	and former Vice President Mike Pence.
1:22.0	And somehow, almost no one had heard about it.
1:25.0	Even people closest to Trump.
1:29.0	Holder was on Air Force One.
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