NEW EVIDENCE REVEALED: What No One Ever Told You About the Shroud of Turin with Dr. Jeremiah J. Johnston
I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST
Dr. Frank Turek
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🗓️ 7 April 2026
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
Is the Shroud of Turin REALLY the burial cloth of Jesus, or the greatest hoax of all time? Why has this ancient artifact continued to puzzle scientists for decades? Dr. Jeremiah J. Johnston returns to explain why, after years of research, he’s gone from thinking the shroud was a joke, to traveling around the world as one of its biggest advocates. What changed his mind? Join Frank and Jeremiah as they examine the Shroud's astonishing forensic details up-close and personal while answering questions like:
- What first sparked Jeremiah's interest in the Shroud of Turin?
- What's the difference between an artifact and a relic, and why does it matter?
- How many scientists have studied the Shroud of Turin?
- Where did the shroud come from and how does it align with the Gospel accounts of Jesus’ death and burial?
- Why does Jeremiah say the Shroud is an "itemized receipt" of how much Jesus loves us?
- What does science and forensics evidence related to blood, pollen, and limestone reveal about the image?
- Why hasn’t anyone been able to replicate the image on the Shroud?
- What are the strongest objections to its authenticity?
- How is the Shroud being used today to point people to Christ?
If we're reasonable people who follow the evidence, how much evidence does it take for you to believe that something is real or evidential? It’s time to look at the evidence for the Shroud of Turin and decide for yourself! For more information on this topic, be sure to check out Jeremiah's new book, 'The Jesus Discoveries: 10 Historic Finds That Bring Us Face-to-Face with Jesus'.
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| 0:00.0 | One of the most fantastic discoveries in history, possibly is the Shroud of Torren. |
| 0:10.3 | What is a shroud? |
| 0:12.4 | And do we really have the burial cloth of Jesus in the Shroud of Torin? |
| 0:17.9 | Or is this a 14th century forgery, as some have said? Well, my friend, |
| 0:24.2 | Dr. Jeremiah J. Johnston, has become an expert on this artifact. It's not a relic. We're going to |
| 0:31.4 | explain the difference here in a minute. It's an artifact. We're going to dive into it, and we both think you may become convinced that this literally was or is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth from 1,993 years ago this past Sunday. |
| 0:52.2 | Here he is all the way again from Dallas, ladies and gentlemen. |
| 0:57.0 | The great, Jeremiah, Jay Johnston, not the false prophet. He's the true prophet. All right, enough enough with the crowd. I got to ask you this, Dr. Johnson. We just had you on the show last week, just leading up to Resurrection Sunday. A few years ago, |
| 1:12.9 | you thought the shroud was a joke. Now, suddenly, you're a big advocate for it being the true |
| 1:17.7 | burial cloth of Jesus. What changed? How did you get into this to begin with? Well, first, |
| 1:22.5 | I'm just honored to be on your program. I rely on you, Dr. Turrick and cross-examine. Love your |
| 1:27.1 | ministry. Thank you so much |
| 1:28.8 | for standing for truth in the ways in which you do. You're one of one. You're a unicorn, |
| 1:34.6 | and God has raised you up. And I'm just honored to have this conversation with you. |
| 1:38.7 | All right. You can pick up your check after the podcast. I speak for everybody saying that. My passion is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. |
| 1:49.0 | I'm phenomenally interested in it. I have an addiction for truth wherever it leads. |
| 1:55.9 | And when I was doing the press junket for my book body of proof, which came out a few years ago, |
| 2:01.3 | people kept asking me in the media about the Shrout of Turin. And honestly, I was agnostic on it. |
| 2:07.2 | And 99% of Bible scholars are there. They've never bothered to study what the Shrout of Turin is. |
| 2:14.2 | I put it in that, you know, I lead Reformation tours. I put it in that category of Catholic relics, which there's on over 20,000. And I just thought this is a joke. I'm not going to study this. And then my pastor, Jack Graham, said, hey, you ought to really actually look into that before commenting on it. Because we can all, when we reach a certain level of influence, we can be careful because |
| 2:34.5 | you know, we shouldn't comment on things. We're not really learned it in because that's when we get |
| 2:38.9 | in trouble. And Frank, it was a Friday morning men's Bible study on Good Friday here at |
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