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Welcome to Pints with Aquinas.

I'm here today with Father Andrew Dalton, who is an expert on the Shroud of Turin.

And I'm really pumped to learn about this because it was awesome to meet you several weeks ago in Rome and to have you give me and the

Batusenator, Cameron Batuzzi, a tour.

I was really blown away.

So I'm so pumped about this episode.

Yeah, there's everything in that exhibit.

I wish we could like transport ourselves there.

But I think it's going to be cool also just to chat it out and have a conversation.

There's lots of stuff on the shroud already online, but I think it's gonna be cool also just to chat it out and have a conversation. There's lots of stuff on the shroud already online,

but I think a conversation allows to kind of tease out

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